MARTON: Oh, well, that's - I mean, you hit the nail on the head. How do you think growing up in East Germany, you know, a surveillance state at the time, a Communist country, how did that shape her personally? And first of all, I want to start with her biography. Now, as Merkel prepares to leave office, journalist, writer and one-time NPR correspondent Kati Marton has written a new biography of, as she describes her, this triple outsider. But when the most powerful woman in the world first won the chancellorship some 16 years ago, it marked an unlikely outcome for this female East German scientist who'd entered politics a little more than a decade earlier. SARAH MCCAMMON: It seems as though Angela Merkel has been the leader of Germany forever, and in fact, she's governed the country for close to a generation.
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